Sunday, March 23, 2008

Still in the dark about the KMT win?


Don't worry. You're not alone. I guess a lot of foreigners in Taiwan are too (as indicated by some of the Taiwan political blog comments I have recently read). What you can't understand is why Taiwanese would choose a party that seemingly doesn't support independence. The reason is simple: although we may have our own Western democratic sympathies, we still do not understand what really drives the Taiwanese to vote the way they do.

I have long wanted to blog about why foreigners' political sympathies seem to naturally lean towards the DPP (my informal poll in the image below would seem to back this up). Here's my take on the situation.

Let's face it. By and large, the foreign contingent in Taiwan are newbies, with varying levels of Chinese understanding as well as various levels of culture shock. I can tell you from my over 10 years living here that I wish I knew stuff when I arrived that I know now. And I have seen and heard remarkably uninformed positions about how Taiwanese should know this or that or should do this or that. What's missing is visitors to Taiwan reading a lot of situations correctly, something that not even I will boast that I can do with 100% accuracy.

Furthermore, we are mostly a China bashing lot, mainly since we do not see China as necessarily important to our well-being. There's not much to like about China, is there, with their dismal human rights record. Taiwanese and China, however, are linked in a political and economic love-hate relationship which cannot be denied. As a Canadian living next to the giant United States, that would be like denying that America has no effect on Canada.

So, coming from countries with backgrounds of independence movements and an emphasis on freedom, we tend to equate independence with our freedom. However, is this the case in Taiwan? For all extents and purposes Taiwan operates as independent even though the UN does not recognize her as such. Secondly, I'm not so sure that Taiwanese equate their freedom with independence. I have found that there is more of a connection between freedom and economic mobility in the Taiwanese mind.

As a foreigner living here in Taiwan, I love the freedom and the independence that my country offers and would not understand why Taiwanese in their right minds wouldn't either. But I'm really just imposing what I would want on the way Taiwanese think. Maybe they already feel they have these things.

There is also the matter of the losing party itself. Over the past few years, the DPP could be considered to be somewhat of a party of idealists. They are 'cause' fighters. The people who support the DPP strongly are independence activists to the core.

The DPP's Frank Hsieh's 2008 Campaign Platform was called "The Pursuit of Happiness in Taiwan" and is a reflection of the happy, happy, joy, joy attitude the party has taken when faced with a serious economic situation. The rejected drive to enter the UN under the name Taiwan is largely this kind of "'heart's in the right spot" policy which didn't really have a realistic chance to pass considering that people are currently preoccupied with making ends meet.

They have also tried a rectification campaign by using the name Taiwan on passports and in government offices which has resulted in alienating a lot of people. They have even gone after national monuments such as CKS Hall and changed the name of Taiwan's main airport from CKS to Taoyuan International. They would like to reverse historical wrongs which is often no easy job (look at the fruitless efforts in Burma or Tibet) by using symbols and school textbooks. These kinds of changes truly come from the bottom and are better not imposed from the top by governments. Lots of observers say that Taiwanese are brainwashed by the past but I disagree. What we think is brainwashed is just the Taiwanese saying they need more time to come around and be convinced (being fairly conservative in the first place).

The past 8 years plus have been years of introspective while the world outside has been globalizing at a furious pace. Taiwanese are obviously fed up with being isolated and impeded by silly protectionist restrictions (a mutual fund I own was discontinued because it didn't meet the correct content restrictions, that is, no China content). Not only this but relations with with once friendly countries have been sullied by dirty remarks (I recall "snot" and "China's got them by the balls" being used in diplomacy).

The DPP has also screwed up their chances by not setting a good example, which would have been a good idea on a first outing in power. First, they have been the pots calling the kettle black. They have proven themselves as corrupt as the KMT in Taiwanese eyes. I will not deny that both parties have corruption issues. However, President Chen has been disgraced by his family's embroilment in corruption which doesn't help the party image.

Added to this, there is a strong streak of playing one part of society off against another, turning friends into enemies, even within families. It was very evident last election with staff being divided into camps, not talking to each other and being suspicious of other's intent. This is the Taiwanese first policies that are directly squarely at people who supposedly do not love Taiwan or consider themselves Taiwanese (read Mainlanders). At times, this really felt like the DPP was getting their revenge after all those years. I think of CKS Hall with the mockery of the monument and efforts by some to bring the sins of the father upon the son (going after the Chiang family).

I find this ethnocentrism personally distasteful. In fact, when looking at history, this is what we might expect from the KMT. It is ironic to see the current KMT doing a better job at championing unity of all the people in Taiwan. If Taiwan is to stand a chance against China then people need to unify, not to divided and labeled and even sometimes demonized.

Overall, my point is this: Taiwanese march to a different drum than we do. What is important to us foreigners is not always as important to them. And though I might make the strong connection between things like achieving independence and earning freedom in our own minds, we should not just assume that these things are necessarily connected for or as important to Taiwanese. And that is why Taiwanese seem to consistently defy our political expectations.

16 comments:

MJ Klein said...

it's a lot simpler than that. by now it should be obvious that the KMT controls everything. they've revoked permission to practice democracy. after all, no group or party took power from the KMT. this little experiment is concluded because it has fulfilled all requirements.

Unknown said...

Well it seems that you have subscribed to the Big Brother is Watching You theory. How does one go about proving what you claim?

BTW, on another point. Look at my informal poll taken about who people think will win the election. Considering that most of my readers are foreign, I think it's a fair indicator of what foreign sympathies are for...

Anonymous said...

An interesting commentary. I also sometimes wonder why foreign sympathies tend to be with the DPP.
I agree that things need to become less partisan and people of both leanings finding a large common ground to allow Taiwan to move forward. Hopefully a KMT dominated government will not stifle opposition in the way mj klein suggests. Personally I don't see that happening.

David said...

I would be interested to see some good survey data on who foreigners in Taiwan tend to support. I guess it would show a pretty wide spectrum of beliefs, but I am not sure where the median would lie. It might be closer to the blue side than is commonly thought.

You seem to be very critical of the name changes carried out by the DPP. Perhaps if they had received more sympathetic media coverage then it would not have seemed so bad. Name rectification is a normal process in any country making a transition from authoritarianism. Apparently Taiwan is not normal in this respect though.

Unknown said...

I don't fear a KMT government either.

I suspect that a lot of foreign and local Chicken Littles will be crying "The sky is falling!!!" in Taiwan for months.

Time will tell.

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm your reader as a Taiwanese in a foreign country, and I like your comments, at least for most parts.

But if you really thought the same way as a fellow Taiwanese knowing that a country like China waiting to assault you the moment you say the word independence, man, you ARE an idealist. We are, according to all the Taiwanese politicians, a peace loving country. But what I think is that we need nuclear weapons.

Besides, Taiwanese individuals do have every freedom as US citizens have WITHIN the countries. Which human rights do you think Taiwanese citizens missed? In my opinion, what we lack is the recognition from the international society, which I doubt how much the referendum would do to the foreign governments, even if they passed. Look at Kosovo, how much blood do we need to spill, and whether the spilled blood could earn us something? And it is always easier to spill others' blood.

Trust me, I know the importance to be independence for Taiwan. Right here in the US, I tasted the bitterness as a citizen of a "region" which is "an undetermined issue" (according to US government). As a foreigner like you are, a better way to support Taiwan is not through supporting DPP, but telling your government that Taiwan needs their recognition as a country.

I totally disagree with mj klein. KMT may be the historical evil side, but that's over 20 years ago. People in power are different, and like the system in US, our current system can be perfected over time. Would you say that George Washington was evil since he allowed slavery trade? Or all the US presidents before JFK and the political parties they belong to were evil since they allowed segregation? If you do, do you also expect them being static forever and would chase after them for "justice"?

Well, I would say that's history. We may be able to fix problems, but we cannot fix history. We need to live a current life, and solve problems in front of our eyes, not in the past.

Anonymous said...

I think l.l. nails it. I couldn't disagree more with MJ Klein. How can anyone say the KMT has revoked permission to practice democracy? They have just received two overwhelming mandates from the Taiwanese people in the LY and presidential elections.

The KMT fully realizes that if it fails to perform, it will be tossed on its keester, just like the DPP was. To suggest that the KMT will re-institute authoritarian rule, is frankly, an insult to every Taiwanese who voted Saturday.

I think a lot of foreigners, mainly the long-term expats, came over here in the late 1980s, early 1990s during the DPP movement years. Their mindsets remain locked in that period. One only has to read Turton, but more especially Jerome Keating, a verifiable loon, to see just how far out of touch with reality they are.

They are not alone. The leadership of the DPP is as well: Its only issue is 本省 vs. 外省 identity. The simple fact is that the vast majority of voters under 50 years of age do not care about identity. It is a dead issue. They are all Taiwanese now. Nobody asks if parents/grandparents whatever are 外省.

Until the DPP can move past this issue and modernize its message, it better get used to these thrashings.

Anonymous said...

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I think l.l. nails it. I strongly disagree with MJ Klein. How can anyone say the KMT has revoked permission to practice democracy? They have just received two overwhelming mandates from the Taiwanese people in the LY and presidential elections.

They fully realize that if they do not perform, they will be tossed out on their keesters, just like the DPP was. To suggest that the KMT will reinstitute authoritarian rule, is frankly, an insult to every Taiwanese who voted Saturday.

I think a lot of foreigners, mainly the long-term expats, came over here in the late 1980s, early 1990s during the DPP movement years. Their mindsets remain locked in that period, and it clouds their judgment. One only has to read Turton, but more especially Jerome Keating, to see just how far out of touch with reality they are.

They are not alone. The leadership of the DPP is as well: Its only issue is 本省 vs. 外省 identity. The simple fact is that the vast majority of voters under 50 years of age do not care about identity. It is a dead issue. They are all Taiwanese now. Nobody asks if parents/grandparents whatever are 外省.

Until the DPP can move past this issue and modernize its message, it better get used to these thrashings.

irwinc said...

DPP needs a vision for the future and it needs to start thinking like a political party in a democracy rather than an insurgency group trying to take down a dictatorship. It needs to reach out to other groups and build a coalition that can defeat KMT's money politics.

That being said, I find it interesting that someone who self-identifies as "true blue" would lay the blame on identity politics solely on DPP. Sure, no body cares if you are 本省 or 外省 but that's not the core issue for identity politics in Taiwan today and haven't been since the mid 90s. The identity issue in Taiwan today is Taiwanese vs. Chinese (as in China, not 外省). If you love Taiwan (as you say... " 'they' are all Taiwanese now"), then how can you accept KMT's cooperation with CCP on election tactics and other issues? These are troubling and dangerous development to Taiwan's security and democracy and DPP is right to ask where Ma's allegiance lies. If KMT and Ma really care about Taiwan, why don't they change the name of their party to Taiwan Nationalist Party rather than going to Beijing to pay tribute to our oppressors?

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Jack said...

"We are, according to all the Taiwanese politicians, a peace loving country. But what I think is that we need nuclear weapons.
"

I can't imagine how the situation would be better if Taiwan's '87 nuclear program was never discovered and it progressed with, let's say, a successful nuclear test on an abandoned island in the Pacific.

I mean, it would reinforce China's case of the danger of Taiwan and probably prevent weapon sales by the US, especially missile related technology.

The only way I see it as a plus would be to use the nukes and the disarmament of them as a bargaining chip TO get better international support or defensive weaponry. But that would not help with Taiwan's relation with China definitely.

Anonymous said...

Here is a few more thoughts

Single-issue politicians (identity politics, in this case) usually do not get elected, and "it's the economy, stupid."

Yvonne said...

what is this "independence" you are all talking about??

I am a native Taiwanese and I can assure you foreigners, Taiwan is NOT under the rule of China, we are NOT part of China, we have our own separate independent government.

the KMT may have consisted of mainly mainlanders who had plans to overcome the Communist Party of China and regain the country... but those people are dead. and I highly doubt

as for our rights as Taiwanese people - from what I have observed, we are doing just fine. for instance, we have not had issues with abortion, gay marriage, religious intervention in the government (well apart from Hsieh's own voodoo beliefs but he doesn't delve into it that much) or killing innocent people in the middle east... and I think that says a lot about our rights in general.

the only problem I see is racial/ethnic animosity (identity politics), and a lot of it comes from the DPP trying to fire up hatred between native Taiwanese and those who were mainlanders (aka IMMIGRANTS, 2nd generation immigrants and so on). that would be the equivalent questioning a Hispanic-American's identity/allegiance as an American because he/she was born in Mexico and not in the US.

as for the KMT sucking up to the CCP... I really don't see how different it is from how ANY OTHER government in the rest of the world (US and EU countries) act towards the CCP. they are all cooperating with the Chinese government. why? because China is in power, and as selfish beings/countries (aren't we all?), they all want to benefit from staying in a friendly, amicable relationship with China (aka to not piss them off).

as a Taiwanese person I would like Taiwan to be recognised myself, but there is a moderate way to achieving this goal, and I feel that the KMT is doing it. the DPP however I feel takes a more aggressive approach and as a result harms Taiwan's economic / social status in the long run.

B.BarNavi said...

To the credit of those who voted in the straw poll, that happened when Hsieh actually stood a reasonable chance of garnering votes. You reap what you sow, and if you sow a poor campaign...

The only real reason to have voted for Hsieh after the LY elections would be a fear of one-party rule. Sure, a Hsieh administration with a Blue LY would be as plagued with gridlock as the Chen administration was, but just look at the US here and see what wonders one-party rule has done for this country.

The issue at stake isn't even identity politics. Last time I checked, there was no tension between Hoklo, Hakka, Aborigines, and Waisheng peoples. Taiwanese identity (contra Chinese "Chung-hua" identity as espoused by the ROC) has been accelerating since ben-tu-hua, and the trend can't be reversed by anyone. Most of Taiwan wasn't even divided on the "sovereignty" issue, either. The majority were for UN participation, and they all want China to lay off. Corruption? Oh please - both sides have proven themselves to be as corrupt as each other.

No, I believe the main issue was the economy, and how Blue media could set facts aside and successfully blame Chen on all the troubles. The Greens were too powerless (or perhaps unwilling) to fight this, and no one should be surprised with the result. Now they've entrusted Xiao-Ma-Ge to fix things up. We'll see what his cockamamie "One China(!) market" free-trade policies can do to help Taiwan's economy (especially its workforce) in the face of a coming US-led depression.

Hand-wringers on both sides should really stop distracting us from the real issues.

B.BarNavi said...

Oh, and those who compared the experiences of Waishengren in the wake of the Chinese Civil War with the experiences of Hispanic immigrants in the US should take a crash course in power dynamics. The Chinese refugees came from the most elite backgrounds and endured favoritism from the government, while the vast majority of Hispanic immigrants are lower-class laborers and enjoy quite the opposite treatment from the government. Who's oppressing whom?

Patrick Cowsill said...

"the only problem I see is racial/ethnic animosity (identity politics), and a lot of it comes from the DPP trying to fire up hatred between native Taiwanese and those who were mainlanders (aka IMMIGRANTS, 2nd generation immigrants and so on)."

I couldn't agree more, though I see the problem as one that runs a bit deeper - it is not the only problem we have here regarding racial or ethnic animosity stirred up by the present government. President Chen has also been scapegoating other out-groups in Taiwan, see the continual raids on bushibans, obviously targeted at "foreign" teachers or his comments about Southeast Asians working in our country and the need for a culling of them. I dug up this comment on the Internet from years back:

""We [The Asia-Pacific Mission for Migrant Workers] are concerned by newspaper reports that President Chen Shui Bien of Taiwan has recently asked his Cabinet to study the possibility of stripping migrants working in factories and construction of their right to a minimum wage by expelling them from enjoying the rights stipulated in the Labor Standards Law."

Scapegoating "foreigners" for economic woes, real or perceived, is an extremely odious practice. It is or was what the Fascists/Nazis were all about.

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